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rmissildine Regular Joined: 24 Oct 2013 Posts: 72 Report to Moderator
| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:44 am Post subject: Zane's 8N hydraulic adjustment booklet | Hello all, Purchased Zane's jig and booklet recently to adjust my poorly lifting / operating '52 8N hydraulic lift. Had a severely bent draft control swivel so I purchased another one from Steve at Steve's 8Nfever and got it installed and all put back together. Began the draft adjustment using the jig and booklet and got everything adjusted up and proceeded with the position adjustment. Here is where I came up short. In the booklet, next to last page it ends with 'a new one is furnished with the kit', speaking of the cam follower pin. Next page (last page) begins with 'of the lift housing into place'. Then goes on to describe quadrant adjustment after the top cover has been installed. I sent Zane an email yesterday but haven't heard back from him yet. Can someone here help me out with what's missing from my booklet? Thanks to everyone, and this site. It's an abundance of knowledge. Roger
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Royse Tractor Guru Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 17498 Location: Ionia County Michigan Report to Moderator
| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:56 am Post subject: Re: Zane's 8N hydraulic adjustment booklet | There may be more than one version of the booklet out there, I don't really know. But page nine in my booklet ends with 'a new one is furnished with the kit'. I then have 5 more pages of photos and adjustments. Zane will probably be along shortly to help, but if needed I can scan the pages and email them to you since you bought it.
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rmissildine Regular Joined: 24 Oct 2013 Posts: 72 Report to Moderator
| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:22 am Post subject: Re: Zane's 8N hydraulic adjustment booklet | Hey Royse, I've been keeping a watch on my email for Zane to reply, I'm sure he's busy, but nothing as of yet. 5 pages before you get to the last page?? I felt like something might be missing on the position control adjustment just by looking in my FO-4. If you could scan those last pages and send them along, I'd appreciate it greatly. I'd like to get it put back together this afternoon.. Thanks, Roger
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OBwan Regular Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Posts: 115 Report to Moderator
| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:56 am Post subject: Re: Zane's 8N hydraulic adjustment booklet | All the adjustments are done prior to reinstalling the top cover. You need the jig installed so the top cover should be upside down on the bench.
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shane12970 Regular Joined: 17 Feb 2014 Posts: 139 Report to Moderator
| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:01 pm Post subject: Re: Zane's 8N hydraulic adjustment booklet | I just ordered the jig and cam pin from zane.. ill let you know if my booklet is same as yours..
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rmissildine Regular Joined: 24 Oct 2013 Posts: 72 Report to Moderator
| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:33 pm Post subject: Re: Zane's 8N hydraulic adjustment booklet | Exactly, I've made all the adjustments using Zane's jig and booklet, did you not read my entire post??? My booklet stops after the draft control adjustments are made.In other words, I'm missing the position control adjustment portion..
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rmissildine Regular Joined: 24 Oct 2013 Posts: 72 Report to Moderator
| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: Zane's 8N hydraulic adjustment booklet | Thanks Shane, I'm sure it was a slight over site, and I'm not far behind Zane in years. Common error, and understandable. Let me know if I can help.. Roger
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Prawn Farmer Long Time User Joined: 21 May 2013 Posts: 565 Report to Moderator
| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:54 pm Post subject: Re: Zane's 8N hydraulic adjustment booklet | Grind off the portion of the cam follower pin that is above the link just in case it was swollen or expanded on the end when it was driven in to assure the hold is not expanded when it is driven out, because the pin must be a press fit. Be sure that the new pink is driven down flush with the link it fits into. I usually grind off a small amount of the pin all the way around for about 2/3 of the length of the pin to allow it to be started into the hole in the link more easily. Don't grind it anywhere it will fit into the link when completely driven down. Support the linkage under the cam follower pin when driving it out with a punch of the correct size. If it is extremely hard to get the old pin out or the new one in, you can completely remove the link holding the cam follower pink by first removing the four bolts that hold the ram cylinder to the lift housing. With the ram cylinder off the housing you then have room to get the link holding the cam follower pink off and then you can lie it across the jaws of a vise to an anvil to make removing and installing the cam follower pin a lot easier. This is especially true if doing it alone with no one to assist you in holding something under the link while it is on the lift housing. Carefully inspect the link after the pin has been replaced to assure that you have not distorted (bent) the link by hammering on it. It is easy to bend the link in the region where the cam follower pin has been installed and if it is allowed to remain bent when the lift is reinstalled onto the tractor it is likely that the position control linkage will rub and bind against the lift housing on the right side of the tractor and if it does, the lift will never work right. Also, if it is bent outwards from hammering on the link while installing the new pit, it is possible that the new pin will not ride correctly on the cam of the rocker and tend to be pushed off the cam in operation of the lift. If you find that the link s bent, it can be bent back over to where it should be cold or by hearing the link enough to bend it back. Observe where the wrong bend is and try to bend it back at this point and not somewhere else. Move the mode lever to the up position control. The lift arms should be all the way down and the touch control handle all the way to the bottom of it travel in the quadrant. Hold the flat threaded plate of the position control linkage adjustment with a large adjustable crescent wrench and loosen the jam not with a 9/16' end wrench several turns off the flat plate. Using a 5/8' open wrench, turn the adjusting bold with the narrow flats on its end that comes in contact with the control rod until the control rod is aligned with the notch in the adjusting jig while holding the slack to the back on the control rod. Re-tighten the jam nut while assuring the adjustment bolt does not turn and change the adjustment. (continued..more to come after my wife finishes watching the Nascar race and will then finishing typing the rest of this)
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Prawn Farmer Long Time User Joined: 21 May 2013 Posts: 565 Report to Moderator
| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 3:18 pm Post subject: Re: Zane's 8N hydraulic adjustment booklet | When the lift is reattached to the tractor differential pump housing, the lift control rod must be guided down behind the pump housing and into the control valve socket by holding the lift up slightly with the left hand on the yoke of the draft spring and with the right hand reaching over the right rear axle housing and feeling the control valve socket with the right hand as the control rod is put in the socket. If the control rod is not properly seated into the control valve socket, the lift will not work. This is best done with a helper or a chain hoist to assist the lowering of the lift housing into place. Install the two bolts that are on either side of the oil pressure supply hole in the lift cover assembly and put the pins in the lift arms to the lift links. With the selector lever in the draft mode (down), start the engine and see if the lift will pick up the arms when the touch control handle is moved to within about one inch of the top of its uppermost travel in the quadrant. If it starts to come up before the lever is one 1' or less from the top of it travel, loosen the 4 quadrant bolts and bump it either forward or backward to adjust the position on the quadrant when the lift starts up. It should start up approximately 1' from the top of the travel of the touch control handle. Now place the mode selector lever (small lever) in the position control (up) position and move the touch control handle all the way down in the quadrant. The lift arms should go all the way to the bottom of their travel. Move the touch control handle up in increments and the lift arms should move up in increments corresponding to the movement of the touch control handle until the lift arms are all the way to the top and the touch control handle is also all the way to the top. This process should now have the lift in near perfect adjustment so that both the draft and the position controlled implements and attachments on the lift.
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Royse Tractor Guru Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 17498 Location: Ionia County Michigan Report to Moderator
| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: Zane's 8N hydraulic adjustment booklet | Sorry I'm late Roger but I do have them scanned if you still need them. I sent you an email so I can get them to you.
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rmissildine Regular Joined: 24 Oct 2013 Posts: 72 Report to Moderator
| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:36 pm Post subject: Re: Zane's 8N hydraulic adjustment booklet | Thanks prawn farmer, that along with Royse's email has pretty much filled in the gap. Thank you all so much. I'm sure Zane will answer my email shortly.. Take care and God Bless, Roger
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mbramble Regular Joined: 05 Nov 2011 Posts: 494 Location: Cantonment, FL Report to Moderator
| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:49 pm Post subject: Re: Zane's 8N hydraulic adjustment booklet | Did you get the pdf file I sent?? Mike
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rmissildine Regular Joined: 24 Oct 2013 Posts: 72 Report to Moderator
| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:02 pm Post subject: Re: Zane's 8N hydraulic adjustment booklet | Yes Mike, I did. Thanks to you and Royse, hopefully I'll have her back together soon. Thanks so much. Roger
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ZANE Tractor Guru Joined: 10 Aug 1998 Posts: 10925 Report to Moderator
| Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: Zane's 8N hydraulic adjustment booklet | I emailed the whole file to him and he got it figured out. My proof reader is my wife and I can't fire her! :O) Besides she works cheap! Zane
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ZANE Tractor Guru Joined: 10 Aug 1998 Posts: 10925 Report to Moderator
| Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: Zane's 8N hydraulic adjustment booklet | Oops! I forgot about the pocket books! Zane
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